EU defence ministers have signed off on 17 joint military projects. It's part of a wider plan to develop a defence pact for EU countries. But are they treading on the territory of NATO? And where does it leave Britain? At the Roundtable was Emmanuel Dupuy, President of the Institute for European Perspective and Security; John Mills, Chairman of Labour Leave; Julia Himmrich - Dahrendorf Fellow at the London School of Economics; and Samir Puri, from the War Studies Department at King's College London. Roundtable is a discussion programme with an edge. Broadcast out of London and presented by David Foster, it's about bringing people to the table, listening to every opinion, and analysing every point of view. From fierce debate to reflective thinking, Roundtable discussions offer a different perspective on the issues that matter to you. Watch it every weekday at 15:30 GMT on TRT World.